Alex went on the view not to say sorry but for his own self gain. To get people to support him.

When a father is a good father, then they should be in a Childs life it’s the best thing for the child. When a father is abusive, verbally, emotionally and perhaps even physically as Alec has shown repeatedly (the verbal and emotional we have seen and he all but admitted on the message he left on his CHILD’S phone about the physical) then NO they should NOT be in the Childs life.

With an abusive father, having that man in a Childs life is the WORST thing for a child. It is not as cut and dry as some want to pretend it is. Different rules need to apply to good fathers and abusive fathers. Having an abusive father like Alec remain OUT of a Childs life unable to emotional destroy the child by calling them names and belittling them as a human being and bad mouthing their mother (who a little girl associates herself to on some levels), is the best thing for the child in cases like this, period. Come on Alec has done this and more before. Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. (wasn’t there an incident of abuse towards his child in an airport too)

The title father should not automatically mean they get to be in their Childs life even if they are abusive towards their child as Alec is. That would do nothing but harm to countless children. It’s scary with all the documented incidences of Alec’s violent, abusive behavior to his child and others (including this undisputable message Alec left his daughter). That anyone would think he should be allowed to continue this type of abuse towards his daughter behind closed doors.

It also puzzles me with all the proof of Alec’s anger management problems his continued public outbursts and acts of violence towards anyone who makes him mad or does anything he does not like, that anyone would want him as their poster boy for fathers rights.

If you are, a good father, or your son is a good father, your ex is etc then you should want Alec to stay as far away from the fathers rights cause as possible. Alec is the poster boy for why the current laws are in place meant to try to protect a child from men like Alec, who have documented instances of violent, erratic behavior towards their child, ex and anyone who angers them. Alec does NOT help your cause or the cause of your son fighting for custody. If you do not behave like Alec then you should not be superimposing your personal situation over his, it is not the same and only hurts the good fathers.

If I were a good father of divorce, I’d be prying that Alec just shut his mouth and hide away, thanks but no thanks.

Alec is not so called fighting for the rights of fathers, he is fighting for himself and trying to garner the support of other fathers for his OWN gain, because for Alec this is not about wanting to be with his child it is 100% about control! It is not about wanting to help other fathers it is about wanting other fathers to help HIM. Open your eyes and see the big picture. Alec is trying to manipulate the good fathers and even other abusive fathers into helping HIM win. Into speaking out for HIM in support of HIM.

Alec must personally win this is what it is about for Alec, as he proves in all his angry tirades, be it politics, dissatisfaction at a job, dissatisfaction about aspects of his job, money, and winning over Kim at all cost’s even that of his child. His child MUST love him and hate her mother or Alec becomes abusive towards his daughter too. As we heard in the phone message.

That message was not about his little girl not answering the phone it was about poor Alec feeling the child liked her mother better. Listen to everything Alec’s says. It’s about Alec thinking he is not winning in gaining all control and controlling his daughters mind and preferences so she hates her mom and hence allowing Alec to get back at Kim.

Alec will fight with his last breath to get even with Kim and win over Kim. It has nothing to do with wanting his daughter purely out of a fathers love. This is not the case here, not in reality, or Alec would NOT be abusive towards his child and then not recognize when he is and instead say poor me, for the abuse he dished out to others.

Guys if this is not you, I suggest you get Alec away from your cause ASAP. Any father married to the mom currently or not but all is good; I also suggests you take steps to distance yourself from what Alec is doing, or explain that not all Fathers are like Alec. Then if anything use Alec as the poster boy for what NOT to do and for what is the wrong way to behave to show you are NOT like Alec, and show you know what he has done is abusive and wrong. You should not make it look like you agree with Alec’s behaviors and therefore seem as guilty as Alec.

Alec needs to stay away from his child, he is going to continue calling her names and worse because he does not see himself as doing anything wrong. He sees himself as the victim. He sees himself as abused by his child, ex wife, courts, and all the people he has picked fights with. He will make the daughter and Kim pay for this if he is allowed I have no doubt. He is a ticking timebomb.

If you are not this type of man then I hope you won’t use Alec as your example of fatherhood because he is going to hurt the good fathers and is Alec how we want our little boys to grow up being on the inside?

Alec and Kim…pls just work thru things…think about ur daughter instead of ur selves!

The only winners are the attorneys. That poor kid being stuck in the middle is shameful. As a single parent, it is beyond me how a mother deliberately keeps the child from her dad. As Baldwin ages so beautifully with his career in full bloom, I wonder if Bassinger’s a bit jealous as well as bitter. Age is definitely catching up with her and it seems as her career has hit the skids. Again, the little girl is the loser.

For the sake pf their now-troubled daughter, both of them need family therapy—-and both of them need to get over themselves and their huge egos, too! Seriously!

i believe it is very important that ireland be around as many family members as she can.if my memory serves, ms. basinger has many and various emotional and psychological issues,such as depression and agoraphobia.keeping her child isolated from those that love and care for her will be damaging. i would hate to see ms. basinger pass her mental illness down to her daughter.

Divorce sucks.
I’m not on Alec Baldwin or Kin Basinger’s side, because, basically, both of them are way too fond of making life hell for each other and their daughter.
Time to take a chill pill permanently, Baldwin and Basinger!

The whole thing is very, very sad. I listened to the story today on the view. I felt sorry for him, he looked truly full of despair but when he talked about his daughter talking about how funny it was how he woke her up so sweetly and said her mom wakes her up by saying GET THE HELL OUT OF BED..etc….I lost respect for him. He used this forum to bad mouth her. I pray that this child will one day have a life that is filled with love instead of sad, sad turmoil.

To all parents of children ending in divorce. No matter how much you dislike each other.Remember that your children should not be told anything bad about the other parent, this leaving it possible for the child to grow up enjoying both parents. Remember you never know,(custodial parent) if something may happen to you and this child or children will have to make the transition to go live with the other parent. I am a remarried divorced mother, remarried to a divorce father and have seen it from both sides. One being good and the other being bad. Mr. Baldwin I can sympathize on how much anger was brought your way before your phone message was sent. I feel that you should not be the only one to have to correct this problem for it took more that you to create. Mistakes are accepted as long as you learn from them. Sincerely C.Montalvo

35 years ago, with two young children, I divorced. My ex left the state and didn’t pay child support. On occasion, he’d call to talk to our boys, and I’d take the opportunity to scream at him about his responsibility for child support.

Today, our oldest son, now 38, is bipolar, with paranoid schizophrenic tendancies. Suffering a mental breakdown during his senior year at the Academy of Art in San Francisco, he hasn’t been the same since.

The regret I feel — for not sheltering my sons from the raging disagreements between me and my ex — keeps me up all night. I now feel responsibility for his mental problems.

How parents behave during divorce can have an affect on their children long after they grow up. —Not only that, it can have an effect on their grandchildren! But, that’s another story…

Take Doctor Phil up on his offer.

The fact that this man might one day be allowed to have unsupervised visitation rights with his daughter is truly frightening!
Baldwin stated on The View today that he has never done this before …I beg to differ! This man has a history of angry tirades … lest we forget the interviews he gave on the late night talk shows prior to the Bush elections when Ken Starr was investigating Clinton. He said (and I am paraphrasing, but this was the jist) that Ken Starr and all his family should be killed…(and this just because Starr was doing his job, but it was contrary to what he (Baldwin) wanted). If Baldwin could be that volatile (and sick) to wish that on the man’s family (as well as the man doing the job he was hired to do), that’s certainly a red flag to any mental health professional. Also, we must remember the tirade he went into about “if Bush is elected” …didn’t he voice something about leaving this country? Well,he’s still here …too bad! If he had left as he said he was going to do, perhaps his daughter would not have had to face this terrible verbal and emotional abuse that he’s put her through.
Since leopards don’t change their spots, and he has demonstrated his propensity for verbal abuse on more than one occassion, he has probably demonstrated this kind of unhealthy behavior before in front of his daughter. Whether it was directed at her or his ex or some other person in his life that just “ticked him off” for one reason or another, I’m sure he has more of a history.

That poor young girl…what a shame! And we wonder why these kids that are so privileged turn out so screwed up! Fathers like him are the answer.

The courts should require him to go to intensive anger management and relationship counseling … and if he can learn to deal with some of his issues then perhaps SUPERVISED visitation could be instituted. He will need long term therapy.

The “Soliloquy” he expresseed on The View was self serving and self ingratiating. He reminds me of an ex brother-in-law of mine who is serving a life sentence for murder. He too was ‘poor me’ but in reality he was just a sociopath … tried to make everyone think it was always the other guy and that HE was the victim! Good try Alex, but truth be told, to some folks you’re not really that good of an actor!

I don’t care what you say. No one should ever talk to their child like that and how exactly is he going to straighten her out. No matter what he says he was in the wrong and nothing will ever take those painful words away from his daughter. Who cares about Alec or Kim at this point. I only hope that their child doesn’t end up emotionally tramautized by all of this.

Alec’s interview on the view was a joke. He never let them ask any questions. All he did was talk about things that we don’t want to know or care about. He makes me feel like his “campaign for parenting” is just a 100% publicity stunt. I understand that parents get upset and say things to their kids that they don’t mean. But how stupid is it to leave it on a message during a custody battle. What a tool.

It’s amazing the different comments that have been made, negatively, both towards Alec and Kim. We don’t know the whole story regarding the relationship between Kim, Alec and Ireland. Alec can share his side with the media all he wants, however, Kim is not there, nor is their daughter to share their side for us to really make a judgment. In the end, do we really have the right to get into the affairs of other peoples’ lives? We so quickly make judgments about other people when we should be looking at ourselves and admit we are not without fault. Let me ask you this, would you like to be scrutinized by the whole world because someone wanted to air your “dirty” laundry? Think long and hard about how you would feel before making your “comments” on what you think Alec did or didn’t do. In the end, we don’t know the whole story and it’s really NONE of our business!

Alec,

You are so right in what you are doing and I back you 100%. My exdaughter in-law has done pretty much the same thing to my son. She uses the children against my son and rather than to encourage a child relationship with my son she does what she can to break it up. Kim is jealous of you relationship with you because that is what she wished she and and did not. Keep up the good work and I would hate to see you leave television or movies because you are and always will be the most handsomes man in the industry and I would back any type of action you take in promoting the parental right of other. Keep you the good work and God Bless and I will pray all works out for you on May 4th.

Denise

So he is still saying he’s NEVER,,, done this to his daughter before…whatever.
The tears don’t cover the RAGING truth of how full of RAGE this person…
SHAMELESS….. :)

I Know what Alec is going thru. Until you have walked in his shoes don’t Judge. It if the most helpless thing you can go thru when you have an ex that is alinating you from your child. My son is going thur the same thing. It seems the Fathers do not have any rights. The Fathers are told to take it to court the Mother and call someone up and grip and get heard without the court or authority saying she has the right to do things. They can be in contempt of court and no one does anything to them. My son has been for almost a year trying to see his son his ex moved out of state and took the child and did not get a court order to do so and has not had to bring him back or ordered to give him visitation even no phone calls. We do not have a physical addrss where he is. We did not get to talk to him on his Birthday, Christmas, Easter. We now have an attorney and still nothing has ever been solved yet. They have shared custody. Why have a court order for anything they are not inforced. Some Fathers do not choose to be dead beat the system make them just that. My son pays child support every week. If he quit paying he would go to jail but she can keep this child hid out and can get away with it. The system Sucks Courtney

If one can’t talk to their daughter with love and respect unconditionally. They probably didn’t speak to their wife with the same love and respect she deserved,however there are two sides to every coin, yet many variables in every relationship.especially with estranged familys’.Couples need to focus on being aware of the buttons that trigger the negative aspects of the other so they can out of devotion and love avoid using said buttons to degrade whatever relationship they have with eachother and for the kids sake. They should never speak negatively of eachother no matter what the case may be. It affects your relationship and the children in a very negative way that lasts a lifetime. I STILL THINK MENS RIGHTS IN COURT SYSTEMS ARE ABSURDLY SEXIST. He without sin cast the first stone. emotions are human, male or female. To deny them would be unatural. FORGIVENESS,COMPRIMISE,UNDERSTANDING, and LOYALTY are the (only) first steps to healing a disagreement. Someone once said TURN THE OTHER CHEEK. My personal experience tells me women and their lawyers can and do take advantage of good laws in many, and my case to take everything a man has worked for. $140,000 home,neighbors,leave him not able too pay off the credit cards trying to afford a place to live. I feel nothing is stronger than a dads love for his daughter. Alec is no different than me in that respect but he is human. I hope they can work it out all three of them.

I have compassion for what Alec is going though. I think he loves his daughter, but I’m still wondering why he still lives in the States, he said if Bush won a second term he would move out of the country. Hot head, calm down boy.

I can t believe the support for Kim over Alec. It is so obvious that she is being a mean spirited witch. I am the mother of 4 and now the grandmother of 3. I ve lost my temper and said things to my children in anger and they have grown up very nicely thank you. I do not condone his action or even my own. But tension, aggravation, and frustration can drive parents to unacceptable remarks. Give the man a break, its obvious he s been raked over the coals and he just snapped we all do at sometime in our lives. These modern women who think they are worthy of sainthood because the birthed a child and believe they have exclusive rights over that child should have been spanked more often as children.

I can t believe the support for Kim over Alec. It is so obvious that she is being a mean spirited witch. I am the mother of 4 and now the grandmother of 3. I ve lost my temper and said things to my children in anger and they have grown up very nicely thank you. I do not condone his action or even my own. But tension, aggravation, and frustration can drive parents to unacceptable remarks. Give the man a break, its obvious he s been raked over the coals and he just snapped we all do at sometime in our lives. These modern women who think they are worthy of sainthood because the birthed a child and believe they have exclusive rights over that child should have been spanked more often as children.